A Centrelink compliance officer conducts an interview with a Chinese-speaking Parenting Payment recipient about her personal circumstances.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 1
Good morning, Ms Li. My name is Sarah Brown and I am a Compliance Officer with Centrelink. Before we begin, I need to confirm your identity. Could you please tell me your full name and date of birth?
早安，李女士。我叫Sarah Brown，是Centrelink的合規主任。在開始之前，我需要確認您的身分。請告訴我您的全名和出生日期，可以嗎？
- Client · turn 2
您好。我叫李美玲，1983年7月12日出生。
Hello. My name is Meiling Li, and I was born on 12 July 1983.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 3
Thank you, Ms Li. Today I'd like to discuss your Parenting Payment and your relationship status. As you know, your eligibility for certain Centrelink payments depends on your personal circumstances.
謝謝，李女士。今天我想討論您的育兒津貼和伴侶關係狀況。您也知道，您是否符合領取某些Centrelink款項的資格取決於您的個人情況。
- Client · turn 4
好的，我願意配合。
All right. I’m willing to cooperate.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 5
Our records indicate that you separated from your husband approximately eight months ago and have been receiving Parenting Payment as a single parent. Is that correct?
我們的紀錄顯示，您大約八個月前與丈夫分居，此後一直以單親家長身分領取育兒津貼。這正確嗎？
- Client · turn 6
是的。我八個月前就和丈夫分居了，一直都是以單親家長的身份領取育兒津貼。
Yes. I separated from my husband eight months ago and have been receiving Parenting Payment as a single parent ever since.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 7
We have been informed by a member of the public that you moved back into your husband's residence two months ago, and that the two of you have attended several social gatherings together as a couple. Is that information correct?
有公眾人士向我們舉報，您在兩個月前搬回丈夫的住所，而且你們兩人曾以夫妻身分一起出席數次社交聚會。這些資料正確嗎？
- Client · turn 8
不是這樣的。我只是暫時搬回去住，並不是和他復合。
That isn’t what happened. I only moved back temporarily; I haven’t reconciled with him.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 9
Could you explain why you moved back into the same residence?
您可以解釋為甚麼搬回同一住所嗎？
- Client · turn 10
真是冤枉啊。我前婆婆是很傳統的人。我前夫怕她知道我們離婚後想不開，身體會出問題，所以一直沒有告訴她。
I’ve really been wrongly accused. My former mother-in-law is very traditional. My ex-husband was afraid that she would become deeply distressed and her health would suffer if she learnt about our divorce, so he never told her.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 11
So she was unaware that your marriage had ended?
所以她不知道你們的婚姻已經結束？
- Client · turn 12
對，她一直以為我們還是夫妻。
That’s right. She has always thought we were still married.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 13
Why did you decide to move back in with your ex-husband?
您為甚麼決定搬回去與前夫同住？
- Client · turn 14
兩個月前，她突然來澳洲探親。本來只打算住四個星期，看完孫子就回國。可是她在餞行宴上吃壞了肚子，到現在還沒有完全康復。我作為她的前媳婦，也只好繼續把這場戲演下去，免得她受到刺激。
She unexpectedly came to Australia to visit relatives two months ago. She had originally planned to stay for only four weeks and return home after seeing her grandson. However, she became ill after eating something at her farewell dinner and still hasn’t fully recovered. As her former daughter-in-law, I had no choice but to continue the pretence to avoid causing her distress.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 15
So you're saying that everything you did was for the benefit of your former mother-in-law? Think carefully before you answer. Your actions so far may be construed as fraud, which is an offence punishable by law.
所以您的意思是，您所做的一切都是為了前婆婆着想？ 回答之前請仔細考慮。您目前的行為可能被視為欺詐，而這是會受到法律懲處的罪行。
- Client · turn 16
我說的都是事實。我沒有騙人，也沒有故意隱瞞任何事情。
Everything I’ve said is true. I haven’t deceived anyone or deliberately concealed anything.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 17
Who else knows about this arrangement?
還有誰知道這項安排？
- Client · turn 18
我前夫、我兒子，還有幾位朋友都知道。他們都可以為我作證。
My ex-husband, my son and several friends all know about it. They can all give evidence on my behalf.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 19
Did you inform Centrelink that you had moved back into your former matrimonial home?
您有通知Centrelink自己已經搬回先前的婚姻住所嗎？
- Client · turn 20
沒有。我以為只是暫時住幾個星期，而且我們並沒有恢復夫妻關係，所以沒有想到需要通知你們。
No. I thought I would only be staying there temporarily for a few weeks, and we hadn’t resumed our marital relationship, so it didn’t occur to me that I needed to notify you.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 21
While you were living there, did you and your ex-husband share your finances?
在那裡居住期間，您和前夫有共同管理財務嗎？
- Client · turn 22
沒有。我們一直分開管理自己的收入和銀行帳戶。
No. We have always managed our own income and bank accounts separately.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 23
Did you share household expenses such as rent, groceries or utility bills?
你們有共同支付房租、食品雜貨或水電煤帳單等家庭開支嗎？
- Client · turn 24
水電費和房租都是他付的。我只是偶爾買菜，或者幫前婆婆買藥。我沒有給他生活費。
He paid the utility bills and rent. I only occasionally bought groceries or medication for my former mother-in-law. I didn’t give him money for living expenses.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 25
Did you present yourselves as husband and wife in public?
你們有在公眾場合以夫妻身分示人嗎？
- Client · turn 26
只是在前婆婆面前，我們才會假裝還沒有離婚。在其他人面前，我們都會說清楚已經離婚了。
We only pretended that we were still married in front of my former mother-in-law. In front of everyone else, we made it clear that we were divorced.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 27
Who reported this matter to Centrelink?
誰向Centrelink舉報了這件事？
- Client · turn 28
是誰向你們告發我的？我要找他問清楚。
Who reported me to you? I want to confront that person and get an explanation.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 29
Our policy requires us to withhold the identity of the informant, so I'm not at liberty to comment on that. Do you have any evidence to support what you've told me?
根據我們的政策，我們必須對舉報人的身分保密，因此我無權就此作出評論。 您有任何證據支持剛才所說的內容嗎？
- Client · turn 30
我前夫和幾位朋友都可以為我作證。我兒子也很清楚事情的經過。我真的沒有企圖不誠實地申領任何 Centrelink 福利金。我只是想繼續假裝下去，不想讓前婆婆傷心。
My ex-husband and several friends can give evidence for me. My son also knows exactly what happened. I genuinely didn’t attempt to claim any Centrelink benefits dishonestly. I only wanted to continue the pretence because I didn’t want to upset my former mother-in-law.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 31
Do you have any documentary evidence? For example, medical records showing your former mother-in-law became ill, or travel documents confirming when she arrived in Australia?
您有任何書面證據嗎？例如，證明您前婆婆生病的醫療紀錄，或者確認她何時抵達澳洲的旅行文件。
- Client · turn 32
有。我可以提供她住院和看醫生的紀錄，也可以提供她的機票和護照出入境紀錄。
Yes. I can provide records of her hospital admission and medical consultations, as well as her airline ticket and passport entry and exit records.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 33
Do you have any written statements from your ex-husband or other witnesses?
您有前夫或其他證人的書面聲明嗎？
- Client · turn 34
如果需要，我可以請他們寫書面聲明，也願意配合調查。
If necessary, I can ask them to provide written statements, and I’m willing to cooperate with the investigation.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 35
I'd like you to gather any relevant witness statements and supporting evidence, and bring them back to us as soon as possible. If we're satisfied that your account is genuine, you will not be prosecuted. However, if we find that you knowingly provided false or misleading information in order to receive Centrelink payments, you may be required to repay the money, your payments may be cancelled, and criminal charges could be considered. Do you understand?
我希望您收集所有相關證人聲明和佐證資料，並盡快交給我們。 如果我們信納您的陳述屬實，您不會被檢控。不過，如果我們發現您為了領取Centrelink款項而明知故犯地提供虛假或具誤導性的資料，您可能需要償還款項、福利可能會被取消，而且當局可能會考慮提出刑事檢控。 您明白嗎？
- Client · turn 36
明白。我一定會盡快把所有資料交給你們。
I understand. I’ll provide you with all the information as soon as possible.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 37
Please submit everything within fourteen days. If you need more time, contact us before the deadline.
請在十四天內提交所有資料。如果需要更多時間，請在限期前聯絡我們。
- Client · turn 38
好的，我現在就去準備所有相關材料和證據，證明我的清白。謝謝你。
All right. I’ll begin preparing all the relevant documents and evidence now to prove my innocence. Thank you.
- Centrelink Officer · turn 39
Thank you for your cooperation today. Once we've reviewed all the evidence, we'll contact you to advise you of the outcome of our investigation.
感謝您今天的配合。我們審閱所有證據後，會聯絡您並告知調查結果。
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